Hebrews Chapter 9

Hebrews Chapter 9 | I Don’t Get The Bible by Yeshuans

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I don’t get the Bible, Hebrews chapter 9 with Delaney and Dad. Let’s talk. Alright, chapter 9. Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service and a worldly sanctuary. For there was a tabernacle made, the first wherein was the candlestick and the table and the shoebread, which is called the sanctuary.
And after the second veil, the tabernacle, which is called the holiest of all, which had the golden censer and the Ark of the Covenant overlaid round about with the golden pot that had manna and aaron’s rod that budded and the tables of the covenant and over at the cherubims of glory shadowed the mercy sea of which we cannot now speak particularly now when these things were thus ordained the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood which he offered for himself and for the heirs of the people. The Holy Ghost, this signifying that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing, which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect as pertaining to the conscience, which stood only in meats and drinks and divers washings and carnal ordinances
opposed upon them until the time of reformation. Does that all make sense? Yeah. Just explaining all the stuff. Types and pictures. Okay. And how it wasn’t like, like right but christ being come boom and high priests of good things to come by a greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands that is to say not of this building neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood, he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and
goats and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctify the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself without spot to God purge your conscience from dead works to serve the Living God geez Louise yeah crushes explicit crushes it’s so good that’s amazing and for this cause he is the mediator of the New Testament.
That’s another place where it articulates New Testament that is not the book. Right. Yeah, he’s a mediator of a new… Of your heart. Yeah, it’s a new covenant and he explained in the chapter before what that is. Yeah. That’s why. It’s really clear. Testament and covenant are interchangeable oh okay that by means of death for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament that by means of death they uh which were which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance let me read that again yeah for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first
the you know the jews they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance so here we come into all of cal Calvinism. Calvinism says that by using scriptures like this, God elected, called, chose, selected out from his people, those who would be chosen to be part of the bride. They say that choosing continues on today. But that is not what the scripture says overall.
He elected certain of the Jews to believe on his son so as to have a bride. That’s all that is in reference to because there’s too many other scriptures that prove we choose. Gentiles, we choose. That’s all I wanted to say. Well, that specifically says those under the first test. That’s right. Yeah.
Those under the first Testament, which Testament made them sinners because God gave law and by the presence of the law is sin. Yeah. Okay. So for where a Testament is, there must also be the necessity. There must also of necessity be the death of the testator. Yeah. What the heck? So when you have a covenant, there must be the death of what the covenant is based on.
Yeah. death of what the covenant is based on. So in the old covenant, there was Abraham and God said, Abraham, I’m going to make a covenant with you. Abraham fell asleep. God slew an animal and walked between it. And that was the covenant made. The death of the covenant was the animal of blood that was temporary. Christ is the testator of the new covenant.
His death was necessary in order for that covenant to be effective. The Mormons say Joseph Smith is the testator of the new Mormon view. That’s why he was killed. that’s why he was killed and so that’s how they justify his death as being necessary for mormonism to come forward as the new new covenant the problem is smith did not die willingly he died in a shootout he died trying to protect himself and trying to get away from the bullets so very different picture yeah that it’s a certain kind of death clearly because everyone dies.
Right. So it’s a certain kind of death. Good point. Right. Like a sacrifice. A sacrifice. A sacrifice. Yeah. Okay. For testament is of force after men are dead. Otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator lives. Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all people, according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats with water and scarlet wool and hyssop and sprinkled both the book and all the people saying this is the
blood of the testament which god hath enjoined unto you moreover he sprinkled the blood both with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry and almost all things are by the law purged with blood and without shedding of blood is no remission so people say why did jesus have to die in this barbaric religion it’s laid out right there laid out that’s just was it like more culturally relevant to understand blood and sacrifice of course this way yeah like even back in Moses like it seems like it was like that’s how they worked and God was doing it how they worked
almost could have been but I think there’s I think there’s much more metaphysical truth too okay because Leviticus says that life is in the blood. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s why if life is in the blood and the wages of sin is death, then the wages of sin to be paid has to come by the shedding of blood.
Do you get that? And so people don’t understand that. So they say, it’s Barbara. I don’t believe in blood needing to be shed and they can’t relate to it, but it harkens back to this stuff that got established with Moses through the law and the shedding of blood of precious animals for their sin, for there to be a price for the things they did wrong, the giving up of their animal.
So it’s all related. Yeah. of their animal so it’s all related yeah i didn’t understand blood and death and sacrifice because i didn’t think about life really like i think when you think about life and actually what is i think we’re just really far removed from being in touch with life in that really like visceral way yeah you know so they might have been more in touch i’m sure they were more in touch with it and that’s why today less and less people get it but let me ask you this ben I steal your bike. I’ve stolen the time your parents
used to buy the bike. I’ve stolen the replacement time you have to go to search for the bike, buy a new bike. I’ve stolen life from you. I’ve stolen time from you. I believe all sin is the theft of time from another individual. And time is the stuff life is made of. Therefore, to shed blood is to redeem that time because the shed blood is to give life for the life taken.
So anytime I think of sin, I think of it in categories of how much time does it steal? When you have an affair, the amount of time it steals from people is enormous. The one who’s had the affair on them, they spend an enormous amount of time in pain, right? Murder. And so we can categorize sin by the amount of time that it actually steals in this world but not in the world to come sorry um but like why the thing that didn’t translate to me i get it more about christ dying but like an animal like an animal, like an animal dying.
Like it doesn’t have time. It’s more symbolic. No, the animal. First of all, it was an agrarian system. They lived and died by their animals. Okay. And so that’s how they did. That was a currency so the like that was like sacrificing their food and their food and their money to raise it okay and then that the animal the blood was sprinkled temporarily to cover but the meat was given to the priests to eat so it was a sacrifice for them to pay for the crimes that they had done temporarily but like he just says the blood of bulls and goats cannot
make up for sin only a perfect sacrifice can do it okay so that’s why the that’s these are all the ways that the law was not faultless. Right. Is that it was just. Temporary. Okay. And if it was faultless, we wouldn’t have any need for Jesus. And the Jews must have kind of known that because they knew a Messiah was coming.
I know. What’s the point of a Messiah if their law worked? Because they thought the Messiah was going to be the one who emancipated them from Roman rule. They wanted to be the earthly dominant ones. They didn’t see the Messiah’s death as doing that. They thought they could continue doing the animal stuff and be right with God.
And so when he showed up, they were like, who are you, you little wimp? We don’t know you. I see. The thing they really wanted was material freedom. That’s right. And to keep being the man. Wow. That is. And it paints such a dark picture because Christianity is no better now. That’s right. Like that is at the core of even before fulfillment and everything.
It’s just like, what did, what was Christ about? Like none of this in the whole picture to say that he wants a material kingdom is really unbelievable. Which is why years ago i wrote the book uh my kingdom’s not of this world and that christians should not be known for trying to do what the jews were trying to do with their messiah have him reign over this world yeah you get it i do see it more and more yeah and i’ve had trouble because i’ve i’ve felt like fulfillment had to be understood for someone to understand that but i don’t think that’s true no i think someone’s heart can be in
the right place with christ having not understood fulfillment in terms of what he’s trying to do. In fact, to parlay off that comment, if fulfillment wasn’t understood and we’re still living truly, believing he’s coming back to get us, then the reality would be that the churches should even more so not be involved in politics.
They should just be worrying about their own holiness and preparation. Because the New Testament church never got involved with Paul. Yeah. But see, either way, it doesn’t matter. They lose. They’re wrong. Or just, yeah. That’s what, when I’ve heard you be like, if he hasn’t returned, we should be doing X, Y, and Z.
I’ve associated that with like, oh, the evangelical thing makes sense then right now. Because they’re trying to do X, Y, and Z, I’ve associated that with like, oh, the evangelical thing is, makes sense then right now because they’re trying to do X, Y and Z, but they’re, they’re doing it even still it’s in the wrong ways.
So like you just really astutely pointed out, even if you strip fulfillment out of it, they’re wrong. Yeah. They’ve been wrong since, and that is the spirit of man. That really helps to be like because i feel limited and being able to talk about things because i feel like it hinges on fulfillment you have to have a really big conversation but so it’s almost like if you sat in front of a crowd of your friends you say let me first bake the cake the cake is christ and his apostles and the church he
established which you say he’s coming back to take that you’re part of they did not he said my kingdom is not of this world the literal context was him fulfilling a kingdom that was of this world yeah that expected him to be a literal king and they killed him and they killed him and he said it’s not of this world like yeah and the icing on that cake is fulfillment so you got a double whammy to knock them down which is why i’m so certain on things and yet people just won’t hear it yeah i’m so glad this is coming that is really helpful this
I’m so glad this is coming. That is really helpful. This reading Hebrews. It’s the book reading. Yeah. I was so scared to read it, but it’s been the most productive thing. I think it’s really, it just makes Christ make all the sense. Okay. Okay. Where did we end off? Sprinkle the blood. It was. Verse 23.
It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these oh what does that mean the patterns of things in heaven the patterns of things in heaven were the were the tabernacle and the golden censer those were the patterns of things in heaven yeah but. But the heavenly things themselves, that is such an interesting, that’s like on this abstraction thing that we’re talking about.
Yeah. Like there is such a theme with a thing itself and a representation of that thing. So much. With Christianity. Because the thing itself is the reality. It’s the reality and the the fulfillment of the reality of everything is him yeah it’s nothing else that makes sense why i’ve been hung up on a certain thing of thinking all this time that i think about this a lot the material and immaterial.
Yeah. Or like representation versus thing itself. Like it seems like that’s, that that’s at the essence of, that’s how I understand the Bible mostly with like idolatry or, um, pride, like literally all the things that the Bible is trying to talk about. I understand through that lens as like, you know, Christ is God’s, the thing himself.
Christ was, is like a abstraction of God and mediated for it. Like I really just understand it through that. I don’t know. Okay. You don’t. No, no, no. I do. I just don’t know if I do the extent that you know. Okay. You don’t. No, no, no. I do. I just don’t know if I do to the extent that you do. Yeah.
There’s something really artistic to it. Which are the figures? For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true, but into heaven itself now to appear in the presence of God for us, nor yet that he should offer himself often as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others for then must he have offered since the foundation of the world but now once into the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself once in the end of the world that’s right what more do you need and so when i say sin’s over
oh no no no it’s done no no where do you get that from from that do you think there’s a difference then between sin of the world and like purity of the bride like those are very different things like the the apostolic record is largely talking about the purity of the bride but christ’s work is largely talked about in terms of the sins of the world which the world is not the bride.
How would you distinguish those? I guess if I understand it right, Christ paid for the sin of the world with his blood and his death. But the bride, because they came from the law, had an abundance of the spirit of Christ, had witnesses of him actually, and had apostles to teach them, they were under a specific onus to live differently than the way the pagans and the fallen Jews and the hedonistic Gentiles lived. They were to be different.
And that is why they were supposed to be holy, pure, without spot, without blemish. The key, though, is they were that by faith. And if they had the faith, they would be that in their lives. That’s how to see it. They weren’t that by how to be in their lives to show their lives. That’s how to see it.
They weren’t that by how to be in their lives to show their faith. They were that by faith and the abundance of the Spirit in them kept them pure and holy and without spot. Does that make sense? Yeah. And then there’s different kinds of well is that the jews or the gentiles both both needed that that faith yeah because christ comes and there i mean it’s predominantly jews but he comes to them in revelation and he says church here church here you know you’re doing good here but i have this against you you better fix it i’m gonna leave you i’m not gonna come get you so it was very important that that bride be uniquely carved out even elected used
to do this i feel like reading about the bride it almost has like no relevance to us there is none we had a kid sit right there who said, I’m the bride. You’re not even close. What are you talking about? Like, well, at least from the fulfilled perspective, it’s like I was part of this wrapping up the economy thing that had to happen yeah it it was like how Moses played a role or how Christ played a role like the bride played its role yeah but it has nothing to do with the mechanics of Christ in our lives. No, nothing at all.
The mechanics of Christ are individual. We are not separate brides. We are believers. And we’re, but it’s not even like we can learn. There’s like not much we can even learn from what the bride had to do. Like it’s really, yeah. Like if it’s that christ so is world here where it’s like the sins of the world that christ paid it’s cosmos it’s us it’s caught it’s the whole world and adam and everybody okay at the time of his death it was paid or his resurrection at the time of his death the price was paid with his life and blood his resurrection was the validation that
it was accepted and approved and so sorry to be redundant but his return then does why is that part all needed i’m like not understanding this bride you’ll remember you’ll remember first of all the bride is central to the way god made man it’s central to moses establishing the ketubah contract like the all the marriage but the thing that you have to remember, and I know you will once I say this after what you’ve just read, is that to the nation, when the high priest entered into the material tabernacle
with the blood of bulls and goats, they waited outside for him to come out. Well, when he ascended into the Holy of Holies, that’s only the work of offering his blood. And Satan reigns for a period of time. And when he comes out, he proves. Okay. Okay. So that part, his return, I guess I’m thinking is separate from the bride part.
Like the people that he’s returning for, like that technically like didn’t have to be part of the story, but it’s part of the story. Like he has to return and he has to bring the bride. And that’s because of the way marriage is. All woven through everything. Yeah. Which is why marriage is so important to the economy of human beings today and which is why believers should be really focused on making their marriages work because it doesn’t say many places that god hates things but it does say he hates divorce
you know because it’s the tearing apart of the two being one. He and his son are one. Adam and Eve were one. God and the nation of Israel were supposed to be one. Christ came as Israel and he took his bride and they were one. That is all the picturing that’s going on through all of this. Make sense? Yeah.
Unfortunately, we have people who make a bunch of exceptions to all this. It’s not that God doesn’t forgive you if you’ve been divorced. People get divorced. It’s part of our fallen world. But it was a very different idea for the bride in that day. And Paul gives a lot of examples of how married couples need to be.
He even tells them, if you have an unbelieving spouse, your worthiness is going to be sufficient, you know? So all of that stuff is at play in that time. But marriage is huge. And in the like pictures and types in the old Testament of Christ and the bride and all of that is like, is his death and resurrection and covering the sins usually shown in those pictures like it goes he dies he resurrects and then he like marries the bride like that the death and resurrection the sacrifice had to happen first before the bride.
He could take her into the kingdom because she had to be cleansed by his blood. Okay. That’s like seen in the Old Testament. Okay. That’s really interesting. Okay. Good stuff. Good questions. Let me, I think. Let me, I think, and as it is appointed unto men once to die after this, the judgment, so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and unto them that look for him, shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
And that’s why people say, if it says in revelation that the world everybody who put him to death would see him you have to cross-reference it with hebrews saying those who are looking for him which is why he told his apostles on the mount of olives watch look you four do this because signs are going to come to show be watching don’t don’t be lazy, right? So we’ve carried that forward for 2000 years, putting us in bondage with all of that.
Okay. All right. Great. How long does that? 27. Oh, excellent. All right. Love you all. Thank you. Love you.