Hebrews Chapter 4, Part 2

In this follow-up discussion on Hebrews 4, Delaney and Shawn wrestle with one of the Bible’s most complex ideas—what it means that “the works were finished from the foundation of the world.” Their conversation spans from creation to determinism, exploring how free will, faith, and God’s changing relationship with humanity fit within that mysterious claim.

Together they unpack the language of “rest,” discovering its link to Israel’s wilderness story and the call to trust God rather than perform for Him. Delaney questions how rest, work, and love intertwine, while Shawn explains how entering God’s rest means surrendering control and walking by faith, not religion.

The episode expands into philosophy and ethics—contrasting deontological (duty- and faith-based) living with teleological (outcome-based) systems. They conclude that true faith is personal, not institutional, and that agape love, while often thankless and unseen, is the quiet fruit of a life lived by faith.