February 1st, 2026 Yeshuan Fireside
February 1, 2026
In this live Yeshuan Fireside, Shawn and Delaney return just eight days after Delaney’s baby is born to answer questions from viewers and the Yeshuans AI chat about faith, fulfillment, and life in the Spirit.
They discuss the nature of personal access to God—without intermediaries or religious authority—and explore biblical questions on the Tree of Life, Christ’s return, and whether the world remains “fallen.” Shawn explains how the fulfilled perspective sees the kingdom as spiritual and present within believers rather than a future earthly system.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn toward philosophy and spirituality as viewers raise topics like the Magi, tarot cards, casting lots, angels and demons, and the spirit of man vs. the Spirit of God. Todd calls in to explore whether ancient wisdom practices can still coexist with faith today, prompting Shawn to unpack the difference between what “works” in the world and what truly comes from God.
The fireside closes with reflections on forgiveness, the meaning of faith, and how believers today live freely in a reconciled world—not bound by sin or religion, but guided by love, conscience, and spiritual truth.
February 1st, 2026 Yeshuan Fireside with Shawn McCraney and Delaney McCraney Norris
Transcripts:
All right, I believe we are live. Welcome everybody. Hello, hello. I am here with my Delaney, new mother of eight days right now. Yes, we, did we have a call in last week? We didn’t have a call in last week because I was giving birth to a child. Sorry about that guys, but we have a new life and what matters more? Welcome.
If you are new here, we are called Yeshuans. We present a biblical philosophy and welcome you to challenge it. And we have an app that you can study that philosophy called Yeshuans. That’s right. and we have an app that you can study that philosophy called yeshuns um you can call in at 220-222-4686 you can also text us questions or uh submit questions in the live chat sarah’s saying congratulations. Thank you. We are streaming across our two channels on YouTube and on Instagram. So still working on making it so you guys can see each other’s comments across the platforms. But anyway, do you have any questions from this past week or thoughts you want to address?
questions from this past week or thoughts you want to address well just want to encourage everybody to uh seek God and spirit and truth you have that right made possible by him through his son you don’t need any intermediaries you don’t need a man a woman a prophet a pastor a reverend you don’t need a church you have the spirit of christ in you calling for you to believe and if you want to pursue him more you got a bible there you can open up and start looking at and then we also have tried to support your searches with a lot
of teachings and they’re free to you to consider so just a lot of stuff that we’re just trying to be a i don’t know what a gas station to help fill people’s tanks sorry for that maybe i need to be my tank needs to be filled fill people’s tanks as they seek god and spirit and truth awesome um okay we’ve had a good amount of questions sent in across a number of different channels so I’m gonna just get into it while she’s looking up the questions I just officially personally pulled myself from any exposure to social media. So I don’t even look
at YouTube anymore at your comments. Delaney is doing all of that. And I have to tell you, it’s liberating. When you wake up and you grab your phone, like you’re grabbing a pack of cigarettes and you don’t have anything to doom scroll over, it’s pretty amazing. You just go right back to sleep. Okay.
A few comments. I don’t really particularly want to read this, but we’ve had this person brought up to us a few times. Do you know who Dan McClellan is? I do know who Dan McClellan is. Do you have thoughts? My only thought is I don’t know what his beliefs are yeah uh but I will say this his scholarship uh does not vet him to be a speaker of truth really no nobody’s scholarship does yeah that’s the that’s my point it’s not against him as a person I’m sure he knows a lot of things that you and i will never know but scholarship does not get you to know the truth what gets you to know the truth
is the spirit of god and your willingness to submit to him and it and let it teach you so he’s a scholar and people mormon love him because he’s always talking about how the bible this the bible that he’s lds yeah i didn’t know that byu grad yeah i he’s like pretty big he’s getting increasingly bigger on social media and uh positions himself not as ld yet like when you first encounter him you would not think he’s lds but this person saying if you’re familiar with him if you’re not familiar with him he’s paradoxically a faithful member of lds also a man from a
scholarly perspective challenges supernaturalism much of historicity and the collected biblical scriptures reiterates your observations and it’s true true. Like when I see his videos, sometimes there’s like things where I’m like, yeah, but that’s, so that’s why I’m surprised that he’s LDS. And he says, weirdly, both you and both you, Sean and Dan have brought this person back to the church, which is just like, what the heck? watch our Tuesday this coming Tuesday night’s heart of a matter epiphany where Delaney and I
are gonna just cut to the chase on some things that you need to consider and we think they’re very valuable however if you don’t and don’t want to reject it we love you the same you want to be Mormon be a Mormon God gave you that right okay i’m not going to delve into too many social media comments because they’re a dime a dozen but um we and we have some from the ai but um i want to point out a couple one on a clip we find that christ’s return occurred in the first century yeah um someone said but that wouldn’t make sense
because literally every disciple not counting john died before the temple was destroyed and i don’t understand that point it seems to confirm what what is them dying before the temple being destroyed have to do with i don’t know what them dying has to do with it what has to do with it is their autographs what they wrote being written before the temple or after the temple that’s the point so i don’t know what they’re dying and the only one who was alive at the after 70 a.d it seems like was john
the beloved if he was even alive so there’s a lot of misinformation about the dating of the Apostolic record and I just stand firm that the internal evidence and Revelation clearly supports a pre-70 AD destruction of the a 70 AD destruction of the temple yeah yeah okay um destruction of the temple yeah yeah okay um okay um about the trees someone’s asking if we are in a garden state now what does the tree of life represent? Christ. Yeah, he was hung on a tree and he is the fruit of that tree.
And so the tree of life was an emblem, so to speak, of him. And by eating of him, so to speak, you have life eternal. Okay. Continuing, what verses in Revelation speak of the tree of life do you know oh yeah there’s a couple of them and i’m gonna do the research right here while we talk so that we can just comment on it it’s revelation 2 7 revelation, Revelation 22, 2, and Revelation 22, 14.
22, 7 says he, Christ says, he that has an ear, let him hear what the spirit says to the churches, to him that overcometh well, I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. It’s fascinating.
There’s a tree called the tree of life whose leaves are for the healing of the nations that’s in the new Jerusalem above. That’s how Revelation 22 describes it. It says in the midst of the street on either side of this river was there a tree of life that bear 12 manner of fruits and yielded her fruit every month and the leaves of the tree were for the healings of the nation now this is symbolic so we don’t know what that means no idea and then and then 12 verses later says blessed are they that do his commandments that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter through the gates into the city so there’s something about having a right to eat from that tree of life
that allows people to enter into the gates of the heavenly city. I’m guessing it’s faith that gives you the right to eat from that tree of life, but I don’t know. Wow. It’s a mystery. That is wild. Keith James Sinclair, Revelation was different in pre-70 ad as it says uh to the seven existing church in asian minor modern day turkey yeah yeah absolutely good comment and it’s been a lie of man and religious tradition to put it post 70 ad that’s a big thing that people hinge this on though. Big.
To promote a knife to a gunfight, which you can get at yeshuans.faith. That book gives you internal evidences and revelation that far outweigh all the myths that men and women have made up about a post 70 AD destruction of the temple. Okay. Next up.
In the Yeshuan perspective, are we no longer in a fallen broken world? Yeah, it’s a good question because it seems kind of conflicted in what we say. Please try to remember that when we talk about Christ reconciling the world to God, we’re talking about what separated us from God from the fall, and that was sin. And so Christ, he reconciled all of us to the garden spiritually.
In terms of material, this world is has fallen that’s why there’s still death and cancer and misery and woe and it will always be in the material realm the kingdom of god is within us spiritually as jesus uh mentioned it is not a brick and mortar.
We’re going to bring the kingdom of God here materially on earth as most religions want to infer. Um, on that note, this person who’s asking these questions wrote, it is mind blowing to think, by the way, if you’re listening, this is in the AI chat bot that we have that scours the yeshuns website. Unfortunately, it doesn’t, um website unfortunately it doesn’t um it doesn’t catch the new episodes as quickly as we’d like oh so they were asking about these based on the most recent episodes that we’ve done a part of the matter but didn’t catch them but it’s interesting they write it is mind-blowing to think and include knowledge of good along with evil as part of the tree of knowledge.
Good things included make it really hard to discern. Yeah. Isn’t that? And what’s fascinating, we’re going to talk about this Tuesday night, is that everything that’s a product of the tree of knowledge of good and evil has good and has evil. of good and evil has good and has evil so heavy metal bands that preach about following Satan give millions to charity for the disabled and the Mormon Church that does all kinds of teaches all kinds of good politically is full of larceny and lies nothing in this world and by the fruit of the tree of knowledge of
good and evil is purely good. Nothing. And that’s where we make the big mistake. And nothing’s purely evil. No, nothing. Like meaning. It’s the yin and yang. The only thing really purely evil seems to be the dark. Well, just like the light is pure good. But how much do we fully tap into that? Yeah.
In this life this life yeah either of them yeah it’s it’s it’s a very an interesting complex system that god has put us in keith said church doctrine is antithesis to faith and good conduct amen yeah yeah we agree completely. On that note, with the ages and the trees, we went on the first episode of Heart of the Matter, Epiphany. We used the background diagram to describe these different ages and to note that we’re now in the quote unquote purple age of the diagram, if you watch that episode.
quote unquote purple age of the diagram. If you watch that episode, and that age, that purple age is saying that we named January 6th of this year, the epiphany day as the start of Christ moving in people individually in a new way, subjectively. So anyway, this person asked, shouldn’t the purple age start when Christ rose from the tomb instead of January 6th, as Sean claims? As long as the Bible exists, there will be a yellow age, which we say is the age between Christ and now, that the church follows while the purple is the preterist view.
And I understand what they’re saying yeah yeah well there’s a few problems with the assumption that shouldn’t the purple age start it should it absolutely should but the bible makes it clear that things had to happen before that age could begin and that would be uh the end of uh of everything as peter said was happening in their day the end of all things is at hand but in order to properly show what has happened we show that men and women took that finished point if we did it right there would just be the one circle. There would be no extra circle there.
I see. So adding a new circle points out that we think that God works through ages and continues to work and will continue to work even outside of biblical times, which is sort of what’s implied in saying there’s a new age or next age and has allowed everything to be that’s what that yellow circle represents is God saying okay humans go ahead and do what you want and nothing has been true and right that’s why we started the purple aids to say we just want to use this as a day to market yeah that
christ is rising up spiritually now in the hearts of those who love him yeah um keith again i heard it said that darkness is the absence of light just as good as the absence of evil yeah and just as cold is the absence of heat. True. Yeah. There is no real such thing as darkness, cold. Yeah. It’s all the absence of.
Okay. I’m jumping between platforms, but Robert Hayes, if the small group of believers were caught up, quote unquote or whatever languages why did the faith continue to spread oh well because it’s fulfilling prophecy in Isaiah 9 which says in the kingdom of Christ will continually increase it will increase forever so and it’s by the spirit but not by religion so a man and women have thought it’s going to increase by religious appeals but it’s really the work of the spirit that goes where it wants moves how it wants so are those who follow christ so we’ve been in a spiritual age of the
kingdom ever since it’s just that we’ve men have always tried to hijack it and make it material. Okay. Yeshua or Jesus died so that we no longer had to live under the curse of sin. More specifically, Adam and Eve are art or eight, they say, of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The born shun believer no longer has to live by good versus evil.
Do you agree with that comment? The born-shon believer. They might have meant to say born-again believer. The born-again believer no longer has to live by good and evil. Right, because the evil has been done away with by the doing away of the law the doing because christ fulfilled the law uh through his death and resurrection and got rid of sin and put the accuser satan in his proper place so right we don’t have to worry about good and evil in fact we eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
We have to because we’re human. And just eating from the tree of life in this restored world won’t work because we’ll starve to death. We will die in the streets without clothing and food and such. So God has made it so that our existence in the garden is free and we elect how to live.
How much of our diet will be the tree of life? How much of our diet will be the tree of knowledge of good and evil? And we do a balance. We choose, but God tests the heart. the heart it’s the heart that’s why we say look at you if you’re a Buddhist and you have a heart for God a faith in the invisible God and you have a desire to love as that spirit in your heart moves you he’s not gonna look at your denominational affiliation we use a Buddhist we use a Muslim we use a Catholic a Mormon so that we can break down all these denominational infighting laws and just come into what the bible clearly depicts
um i missed a few comments here jeff said he loves dan mcclellan he’s still lds doesn’t let his lds beliefs uh interfere with the biblical scholarship he shares i think 70 ce destruction of the temple is uh basically indisputable those were jeff’s comments and then daniel’s asking what greek words are you guys using for good and evil the bible used many different words for both good and evil well we try to use any and all and we try to take them in context and what their literal meaning is so you know sin harmarsia and all
these others i don’t memorize words to know them i just look them up as we teach but we talked about this in the last one too in the the trees though the trees specifically have a right i mean in general when you’re talking about good and evil you use the collective let’s just do something and let’s look up the septuagint uh translation of the uh hebrew good and evil why not it’ll be fun he did this last week it feels like it okay um yeah let’s go to genesis and let’s go to while you read that he says i see genesis more sorry as a covenant book as opposed to a science
book indeed a book of relationship between father and mankind i seem i see it that way too much about it but um daniel good and evil in the i can’t read this sorry he’s saying sorry guys i’m trying to zoom in good and evil in the lxx that’s the septuagint septuagint sorry is correct procedure and evil is wrong procedure correct procedure and evil is wrong procedure cane place the fruit in wrong order okay i can without looking it up then thank you i would agree it’s procedure so right love that what’s
the procedure now it’s not religion it’s the tree of life period yeah um okay so on that same we find christ’s return occurred in the first century yeah someone said disagree if that was the case when dod rule and rain on earth for a thousand when did rule and rain on earth for a thousand years? Where was the thousand years of peace? Name the 144,000.
Name the tribulation saints. Show the mass resurrection. Show the two witnesses that came and condemned, died and resurrected. So many unanswered questions. I will accept there is a time in history that mirrored the end, which was not the end. And okay, so you have embraced all the traditions you’ve been taught, because if those traditions were proven to be false, church wouldn’t exist.
But, so you’ve embraced them. Look it, there are a thousand, I’m just using that word tongue-in-cheek, there are a thousand facts that are indisputable about his return in 70 AD as promised. There are a handful of questions, maybe five, seven, that are disputed and questionable.
The rest of them are reinterpretations that have misled you. For instance, the thousand years. If you’re really interested, tell tell the person we’ll send them the book to explain what thousand meant to a jew and how it didn’t mean one thousand okay when it talks about all those separate little questions he thinks are yeah you know don’t you think whoever wrote that that we want the truth too don’t you think that we want to understand? Or do you just think we’re in this to just make stuff up? Everyone, we get so many comments on 30 second clips that are like so many unanswered questions.
That’s always the thing. Like you left out so much information. It’s like, yeah, we’re’re gonna cover the entirety of the bible in this minute right like and they don’t assume that you it’s coming from anywhere it’s kind of the way of humans yeah just automatically assume yeah it’s pretty rough um okay keep going keep going okay keep going keep going just want to say how blessed i am by your ministry and video output on many levels we agree on so much keith james sinclair in england well thank you thank you i
love your name appreciate that a lot um, concerning this morning’s teaching, I vaguely remember from years ago at Calvary Chapel, quote-unquote pastor teaching the nation of Israel was freaked out by the arrival of the Magi because they came from a… It got cut off. Gentile. They came from the East Gentile land.
Possibly. He’s probably still typing do you know what he’s gonna say i don’t know okay we’ll see we’ll keep going um uh jeff is chiming in the 144,002 witnesses etc why demand all the mysterious details tied up with a bow when the futurist interpretation makes jesus’s own, Jesus’s own clear words about timing this generation to be wrong.
That is, yeah. It’s a good point. And besides 144,000, this is figurative speech. That’s 12,000 times 12. Yeah. Okay. So, or 14, is it 12 or 14,000? 12 times 12 times 12 is 144. yeah 12 and so what that looks like is that there’s a representative number of 12 000 uh referring to the 12 000 in each of the 12 tribes and that they did not defile themselves with women it seems to be code code language for they never practiced idolatry because idolatry and adultery are synonymously used throughout the Old Testament so they never had an affair on God that’s how to see them and
whether that number is literal or figurative we don’t know um yeah like even this morning in your teaching, what Steve pointed out, how you read a story that typically is applied when a pastor teaches about it. They’re talking about it. Todd’s calling in. Oh, good. Hey, Todd, you’re on the air. Hey, guys, how’s it going? Hey, Todd, good. How the air. Hey, guys, how’s it going? Hey, Todd, good.
How are you doing? Oh, good. I was just enjoying your teaching from this morning. I don’t mean to change the subject if you guys are on something else. Oh, no. Yeah, you had mentioned something about you were talking a lot about the Magi, and I was trying to type in the comments, but I was struggling because long time ago was teaching that the nation of Israel was super freaked out by the arrival of the Magi because they came from a nation that had history with Israel. They had been at war together and Israel, I think, got defeated by these guys every
time. And when those guys showed up, when the Magi showed up, they weren’t traveling alone. He seemed to think that they were traveling with their army. So that’s why it said the whole nation was unsettled and in great fear because they didn’t know why these guys were here. Had you considered or heard anything like that, Sean? I’ve never heard it, but it makes sense to me, and I love that information but I I’d never been taught that in my training with uh Chuck but I do do know that the the men
of Babylon were known as the wise men uh it’s a separate comment than you’re making Todd and that they did come from the east and that they were Gentiles and that that’s why the rest of the Catholics and Orthodoxies and Anglicans celebrate Epiphany Day as first being his outreach to the Gentile world.
But I had no idea that there was armies associated with that, and that makes good sense. I love that kind of insight. I wonder where it came from. Yeah, like I said, this is probably maybe a decade ago i just i i just remembered that particular teaching at least this much because it you know because it made so much more sense i was like okay that makes sense if the israel nation was freaked out if another if an army that had kicked their butt in the past yeah going up they were probably wondering what the hell is going on.
Let me ask you, in all your time in the faith, Todd, do you ever remember being told that the high priest for the nation of Israel had a rope tied around his waist when he went into the Holy of Holies so that if he died in there, they would pull him out? Yeah, I do remember that. You know, that is a complete myth is it yeah i i did around there too right yeah yeah they had now the bells may have been attached to his robe but the rope around the waist to pull him out if he died total fabrication in terms of
at least from what i was able to discover in research several years ago. I’m just pointing it out that we have these ideas and they just kind of stay. But yeah. Well, that one makes sense to me, though, doesn’t it to you? Yeah. Are you saying it might be hearsay, but it’s kind of a reasonable hearsay based on the conditions that these guys are entering into, right? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So it’s kind of interesting how this all comes together.
Yeah. Related to the Magi, I got a question for you also, and it’s funny how these things come together i’ve often wondered sean about like tarot card readings and um the kind of casting of lots it seems like and and the teaching that you gave this morning about taking a stance that this stuff is verboten like it’s forbidden or something. Are you suggesting, I’m wondering if it says forbidden, it’s spirit of mankind kind of stuff.
And I could understand why it would be forbidden if that was the source you were leaning on for truth but it seems the magi were practicing and i don’t know i’m asking they were practicing these sorts of things and that kind of knowledge there they were very astute in studying the stars and were able to connect some dots that allowed them to recognize the star that needed to be followed in order to find christ so can you kind of clear that up for me? Is all of the spirit of man type of wisdom that one might seek out in the stars absolutely
forbidden, or is it once again depending on your heart and how you’re using that kind of information? Yeah, I would agree with the latter. I think everything is dependent on the heart. And searching the stars is not forbidden. It’s like you said, where do you place your faith and trust to give you information? And when you start to let the stars give you your information, that’s the thing that’s warned against in astrology.
But astronomy was definitely what the wise men knew from Babylon. And so to, I mean, our, our space program, everything about astronomy, God doesn’t prohibit. So when people are like stuff comes across my Facebook feed and whatever, and I’m just a curious guy and there, there’ll be these people that do tarot card stuff, and some of them are, they claim to be Christian.
So the kind of general, you know, instruction or encouragement that they would give somebody, they’re leaning on God for whatever they might say and try to offer encouragingly while at the same time using these cards. The apostles casted lots for dice to make a decision about Matthias, right? Yeah. about the science right yeah so are these things i’m just wondering because you’ve made me allowed me to question even more and more as as i seek after you know what’s true and not and you’ve made such a clear distinction about the spirit of uh god versus the spirit of Christ versus the spirit of man.
Are these things as taboo as Christian tradition has pointed out? Do you think then am I making my being clear? Yeah. You’re being clear to me, to me, it’s the, my, my answer is this. Hopefully it’s clear to you, Todd. And that is the spirit of man. Uh, Christ has had the victory over all things. Okay.
So the victory has been had and the spirit of man uh christ has had the victory over all things okay so the victory’s been had and the spirit of man taps into things dark and light according to our collective mindset whatever that is if it’s of the evil if it’s of i don’t know but it seems like it works don’t know but it seems like it works it works in this world uh they i’ve read the story and heard the story several times that sylvester stallone before the whatever 1998 stock market crash went to a soothsayer on hollywood and vine and had his cards read and the soothsayer said pull your money out of the market and he did and he saved himself from tremendous loss i think it works in this world i think mormonism works in this world from the spirit
of man however i do not think that is god and so if you want something to work in this world to give you inspiration and power and whatever it’s all all yours. Take it. You can do it. But don’t think that you are doing God’s will. So my problem with tarot card reading is that if a believer is saying they wouldn’t use tarot cards, what they’re saying is I am looking for spiritual information to govern me outside of the spirit of God in me because of Christ’s work. And that’s where I feel like it’s a form of idolatry.
It’s a form of adultery. So I’m not going to judge. That’s between people. People have all sorts of weird beliefs. Christ has had the victory. We know the truth. We know what to do. It’s up to you how you’re going to do it. That’s how I would answer it, Todd. Okay.
I guess the part that leaves me a little bit confused, by the way, I don’t go in for tarot stuff or any of that. It was just something else that came across my desk and made me wonder, if somebody is relying on Christ for truth, are we then to judge the means by which a guy goes for it? Like, we’re still walking by faith. And the reason I brought up the casting of lots for Messiahs is it seems like they were practicing something that we would probably forget on in today’s day and age but because they were relying on god for the answer now i understand they probably shouldn’t have done that in the first place because paul was the
13th disciple not messiah right so anyway yeah where did that practice lead right yeah i mean right and i and i don’t know if there’s any other places in Scripture that record that kind of men leaning on that kind of practice while appealing to the Spirit of God. I don’t know how common that was. Yeah, it’s an Old Testament practice.
They did it. so i guess are you saying then sean today in today’s day and age you would totally discourage a guy casting lots for something appealing to god and then the means by which to get an answer casting lots or something like that you you would rather just encourage him to hope for an answer from within? Hope for an answer from within from God, and let God and the Scripture and the Spirit and the fruit of it do your guiding. I do that. I wouldn’t encourage or discourage anything. I know that
is kind of troubling to people, but we have to find our way. And sometimes people learn through trial and error and being disappointed. I am very mystically minded and I’ve relied on that mysticism and it’s never led me into anything really great. I’ve always been misguided by my own mystical ideas and things of the flesh. But that’s my personal experience, Todd.
I just think if we are followers of the true and living God, we have nothing between him and us. And that includes tarot cards, prophets, pastors, or religion. Well, that makes a lot of sense to me. And it kind of goes in line with having said that god allows all these things to exist i wonder i wonder how the nation of the magi’s if their practice changed because i think the kind of practice that led them to Christ.
Do you see what I’m saying? That was used, even though we might frown on it, that practice was used to bring them to the baby Christ, Yeshua, right? Yeah. And that was still Old Testament, though. So it was, you know they did they did cast lots they did do that that a woman supposed to drink that water and her belly would swell they did have talking donkeys they did all kinds of things and that they pulled from egypt and didn’t so i think it was a different age but with the victory that’s the thing if he’s had the victory i think it’s foolish for us to continue to seek the wisdom of the world and our affairs well i guess that’s i i don’t like you framing
it like that i’m saying that people are seeking the wisdom of god through what one might call a kind of worldly means and since that changes the heart of it that might somehow put it in a more positive light but you but that’s not something that you think is possible or we should like you know no i do think it’s possible i just don’t think it’s right i i don’t think it’s of god i think it’s entirely possible I think the dark works of the other side are still thriving, obviously in the hearts of men and women everywhere,
but I just don’t think it’s of God. I think it works. I’m not of God. Yeah. All right. Fascinating. Well, thanks for letting me ask a bizarre kind of topical question. We love it, Mr. Todd. Thanks for asking. All right, brother. We’ll talk to you guys later. Bye, Delaney. We love you, Mr. Todd. Thanks for asking. All right, brother. We’ll talk to you guys later.
Bye, Delaney. We love you. Bye. Some comments. I let the person whose question we asked know. Oh, my gosh. I let the person who asked the question know that we answered his question. He’s in the chat right now, and he’s saying a few things um okay i see two issues the unsaved are condemned already so it’s not us who judges them when we condemn their idiocy to the born again believer absolutely can be playing with tarot trash and go to heaven if you don’t believe that you haven’t trusted God’s gift
oh yeah absolutely yeah we’re not it’s not a matter of salvation it’s not salvation but I want to make one clarification of he says the unsaved yeah everyone is saved from their sin yeah they’re just not saved to the kingdom yeah we’re different we distinguish from christians in that way we keep going yeah that’s all i meant and he said how have to find our way no the born again believer already knows the way that’s a mystical idea that you have to find your way oh really really yeah let’s talk about that really let me finish what he wrote and then keep going
what measures do you measure specific sins with it sure sounds like you think that some sins can keep you out of heaven otherwise the conversation would be entirely different that is not what we believe at all ever so i don’t know where you’re getting that maybe your wires are crossed in how i talk because it can be confusing bottom line line, there is no sin, quote unquote sin, because sin’s over.
But there’s no sin that will keep anybody out of heaven that’s of the flesh and a result of the fall. We make that perfectly clear. Believer and not, it’s not their sin that keeps them out except the sin of refusing to believe, refusing to have faith. That sin is unforgivable in this world and the world to come.
So the faith has to be there, but everything else, no, I don’t believe that at all. Okay. Keith said the law is transition from age of Taurus to age of Ram, new covenant transition from age of Taurus to age of Ram, new covenant transition from age of Ram to Pisces, fishers and men, next up transition from Pisces to Aquarius thoughts.
I think that is called astrology. I am not saying that it doesn’t work and I’m not saying that it can’t be on point, but I am saying it fails the measure of God’s wisdom yeah I don’t think though or I see alignments with the ages in the Bible and with like civilizational changes sure like the way that Like the way that he, the way that civil society occurs, God works with.
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. The problem is we’re not God. He knows what, but we try to do it and we get it mixed up. That’s my problem. That’s the problem with Adam and Eve. The knowledge of good and evil was restricted specifically to God. And he said, don’t eat of it. You can’t handle the truth. Nicholson said they couldn’t handle the ability.
They didn’t walk by faith, which is what we propose everyone do. Okay. That original commenter said, good. It sounds like you’ve accepted the gospel presented by Paul. I did hear your response at 17 minutes, which answered his question earlier. Or their question. I don’t know who you are. Yeah. There are a lot.
I’d like to say something back to him. Yeah, please. Okay. What you just said. Oh, it sounds like we understand the good news. I want to ask you. Does the good news today say that you have to believe to be forgiven of your sin? Because that is not good news. That was news to them in that day.
They had to believe, repent. They were the nation of Israel. Isn’t that what you just said though? What? What did I say? You have to believe that that’s an unforgivable sin. Yeah. But it’s only to enter the kingdom, not to be forgiven of sin. The question I asked him is, do you have to have faith to be forgiven of your sin today? You do not.
Your sin has been paid for past, present, future, forgiven. Christians today say no. The good news today, they say, is Christ came and did what he did. Believe on him and you’ll be forgiven of your sin. That is an anachronistic lie. We’re forgiven of our sin. You can believe that to enter the kingdom? If you believe that somebody has paid for your sin, that grants you entrance into the kingdom. It’s faith on him who did what he said he was doing. He paid for your sin that grants you entrance into the kingdom it’s
faith on him who did what he said he was doing he died for your sin most people don’t accept it so they don’t enter in they don’t have that faith but it’s not punished no either um keith i was alluding to age alignment rather than out and out astrology um on that one astrological comment i i i know you just taught against this no how about you want i i don’t know we have a good friend and i’ve just learned that he believes in reincarnation and and i just say i don’t know so uh paul says love is to believe all things, hope all things, endure
all things, believe all things. So I believe anything’s possible, but I am only going to go by what I can confirm is. Yeah. That is possible though. I agree. Back to the belief question. You do not have to have faith to be forgiven. That’s correct. Once you believe, you are born again. Since we’re already forgiven by God, then paid by Jesus, we are saved by grace through faith in him alone.
You do not have to have faith to be forgiven. That’s correct. Once you believe, you are born again. No, not you believe, you are born again. No, not once you believe you were born again. You were born from above by Christ because of his victorious work. Otherwise, Christ did not reconcile the world to the Father, as 2 Corinthians 5 claims.
He says those sins were already forgiven by God, then paid by Jesus. We’re saved by grace through faith in him alone. Yeah, but it doesn’t have to do with our belief that if that’s applied. That’s what he says. I know. When you speak, I do hear how it gets confused. I know. I agree. It does. Not that.
I don’t know. Okay. Okay. There’s a massive amount of comments on, especially one video that went kind of big on Instagram, on defending Mormons back and forth all over the place. I don’t think we need to get into that. So I’m going to go need to get into that. But so I’m going to go back to the AI questions.
First Corinthians 15, 17 seems to put a greater emphasis on resurrection than the cross or second coming thoughts. Uh, 15 is all about the resurrection. So the emphasis is all through that on it but 17 and if christ be not raised your faith is in vain here yet in your sin then he continues on after and and he talks about how christ is raised so it’s all in order there it’s it’s like the development of a child kind of on our minds is the heart is vital but so is the brain and so are the kidneys and so are the lungs.
In chapter five, he’s talking about the import of the resurrection. So the focus is there, but it doesn’t detract from the birth of Christ. It doesn’t detract from his, from his sinless life. It doesn’t detract from his, the import of his return return it’s just one of the organs of a functioning christ i put it that way okay um and then you should look up first timothy 4 10 keith asked for your thoughts on that verse first timothy 4 10.
and while you’re doing that um previous commenter previous commenter sharp shrap belief sees you through quote not of yourself seals you belief seals you through not of yourself god i can’t read belief seals you though quote unquote not of yourself i’m curious on this part of the discussion maybe this would be a good video and subject for you to upload later i say what i say because you don’t need to have continual belief just as faith is given by god we can choose to accept god’s gift and it comes at no cost well that sounds good to me we’ve done a whole bunch of videos on all of this at yeshuans.faith if you want to look at it.
1 Timothy 4.10 says, For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God who is the Savior of all men, especially of those that believe. What do I think of it? I think that it’s totally ignored by Calvinists, and he is the Savior of all men, especially that’s where we get the idea that he has saved us all from sin and death.
All of us, all men. But he is especially saved those who believe because they enter into his kingdom as his children. That’s a really important verse to that whole thought. Okay. Okay. How do LDS get doctrine of baptism for the dead from 1 Corinthians 15, 29? And what does it really mean? Okay. So let’s just cover this straight up.
Joseph Smith had a mother who was extremely religious. He had an older brother named Alvin, older brother, I think was Alvin, I can’t remember now, who died unexpectedly of a very quick moving disease, probably from trying to heal him through some medicine. And a pastor came to their home and told Joseph’s mother before anything, he was in hell because he hadn’t been baptized. Wow.
That led Joseph to do what he did, and that was find an answer to fix that. He found it in Paul’s reference in 1 Corinthians 15, where talking about the resurrection, says to the group he’s talking to, I thank God I baptized… I think 29. 29, yeah. So he says there at verse 29, Else, what shall they do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not at all why are they then baptized for the dead and it leads to several lines of thought they were baptizing people on behalf of dead people vicariously to get them to enter heaven because the baptism act was performed for them.
That’s what Smith took and he developed baptisms for the dead on was that single passage. But the other idea is Paul in context is talking about how believers have been suffering in that day with death. And that if they were, believers were believing and being put to death by the Roman armies and the Judaizers, and they were suffering.
And so Paul is asking, why do we keep baptizing people in place of the dead in the play in the body of christ why do we keep baptizing if they’re not going to rise at all why do we baptize them uh baptize new people into the body of christ only to experience death and the the key to that is the next line is and why after he asks else what should we do that are baptized for the dead? He says, and why stand we in jeopardy every hour? We are living in a time where we’re being put to death for our faith.
Why do we keep re-baptizing people into our body of believers so they can only be put to death again? They’re being baptized, replacing the dead, and we stand in jeopardy at every hour. The other idea was it could have been a pagan practice. They were actually doing that, but that’s highly disputed.
It’s Smith’s ability to take a single passage and build an entire superstructure on it. That’s wild. That is so interesting. Okay. So, okay. Keith says some excellent discussions on air, apostrophe E-R-E. Do you know what that means? No. Oh, on here. Maybe he meant on here. Oh, cool. Sorry. I’m not the best translator.
In the old, from Daniel, in the old last will and testament, angels and demons are the same thing. So how do they differ in the new last will and testament? I think personally, I can’t prove it, but that angels and demons are now post-mortem humans. The angels being those who are of the kingdom, they’re angels of light who are using their eternities with God to do his bidding in bringing more people to him.
And that the demons are people who have died. They dwell in this realm spiritually they hang out in the dark corners of this realm and they are here to encourage people uh toward embracing life here and now and forgetting god that’s how i see day angels and demons today compared to the divine council that was in the heavens before when God created the earth.
Keith says a gift is relative to a giver. A receipt is relative to a recipient. Even faith is a gift of the Father. Yeah, it says that. that it says that but there’s a problem when we just take that as saving faith is the gift of the father versus faith that comes with maturing and I have a hard time accepting the fact that all faith is given to us of the father that saves us and grows us I think there is, we play a part in the acquisition of faith, which is why there’s plenty of other scriptures that talk about people
choosing to believe. Um, what do you say that Genesis six, five is still a true statement? What do I say what do you say even after Christ has come and that the spirit indwells all this is from the AI bot and it repented Yehovah that he made man on the earth and agreed him at his heart what do i say about that yeah is it a true statement even after christ has come and spirit indwells no no i couldn’t believe that because i think that is relative to the context of genesis 6 where uh the world had become filled of human beings with violence
they were violent and so he sent noah to wipe them out because of violence and it repented him he felt but this is what we see throughout the text god is constantly working and doing new things having given us free will to bring about his overall uh salvation for each of his created children so this was just for that day and time i think he repented that he created men because their every imagination was evil that was the condition of the world of humans before the flood yeah between cain and the flood wicked um shrap since life is no more about good and evil and born again believers are saved
we really can just enjoy this life live it however we want good works are only for rewards and are relevant to salvation i certainly do good works but i don’t trust any of them to count toward the gift i can’t deserve or earn my pay nor pay back i would agree with that completely i would say though that the fruit that you let come through you because of christ in you will lend to the reward you receive from the hand of god in terms of your resurrected resurrection i believe that is kind of consistent with pa in first Corinthians 15, but maybe not.
The fact of the matter is, you know, if you from your heart believe on what God did for the world through his son and from your heart, you really desire to try to love. There’s nothing more faith and love nothing more you know whether you smoke or drink or watch this show or do that none of those things could possibly philosophically matter if christ was god’s solution and we receive him by faith in our heart or the spirit of him even if we don’t know him ontologically and we try to love because that’s what the spirit pushes us even if we don’t know him ontologically and we try to love because that’s
what the spirit pushes us to do i don’t see as anything else being necessary all right um maybe we can wrap it on that question all right um lots of lots more questions but we could save them for next time jeff says love you guys i got a jet a little early thank you for doing this fireside. Thank you for listening.
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