Hebrews Chapter 5

In this episode, Delaney and Shawn explore the end of Hebrews 4 and the beginning of chapter 5, uncovering what it truly means that Jesus is our “high priest.” They discuss how the incarnation uniquely allowed God to feel human weakness—showing that Yeshua’s experience was fully human, not the 100% God/100% man paradox later created by the church.

Their conversation challenges the Trinity and highlights how Jesus “learned obedience” through suffering, becoming the author of eternal salvation. They reflect on how this makes faith relational and experiential rather than doctrinal—grounded in a Savior who understands human struggle firsthand.

The discussion expands into how organized religion secularized the faith by systematizing God, while true faith remains spiritual, free, and individual. As Hebrews 5 closes, Shawn connects the passage’s “milk and meat” metaphor to Yeshuan growth—calling listeners to move beyond beginner belief into mature, reasoned, Spirit-led faith.